The Punisher’s Jason R. Moore Discusses Curtis’s Relationship With Frank & Where He’d Fit Within the MCU

[vc_row][vc_column][vc_single_image image=”16498″ img_size=”800×500″ alignment=”center”][vc_column_text]If you have been here a while at Geek Vibes Nation, you know that I am a huge Punisher fan and the fact that we may never see Jon Bernthal as Frank Castle is almost too painful to say aloud. There were so many other great characters as well in The Punisher – it was a world that I felt really operated outside of the Defenders realm and characters like Billy Russo were so focused within the Bernthal spin-off series that I thought at least this show had the potential of going on.

One of the series regulars who I am happy we got to see more of is Jason R. Moore himself, who played Frank’s friend and expert Corpsman, Curtis Hoyle. As the anchor that really grounded Frank, we all can agree that everyone could use a friend like Curtis. In a recent interview, Moore spoke about his character and what we may have seen in season three.

Hidden Remote: I felt that their relationship [Frank and Curtis] was an anchor on the show. Curtis anchored Frank to his humanity. But by the end of season two he says he’s done with Frank, do you think that would have stuck moving forward?
Jason Moore: I think the story would have needed a little more explanation on their relationship, I have these questions too, that I posed to the showrunner.
When the time came we were gonna have it. I think that in season three we would have gone way deeper into the history of Curtis and Frank’s relationship and gotten more understanding as to why Curtis does these things for Frank and actually risks his life and freedom, why Curtis says things like “I don’t know what I’d do if anything happened to you.” We may need to see these two guys in battle or one of those moments that forged it, so we could understand the depth of their relationship.
Hidden Remote: Definitely, and on the flip side you have Curtis’s relationship with Billy. I love that one scene in season two where he tells Frank that he’s acting just like Billy.
Jason Moore: What’s interesting is that, that scene, there was originally more to it, and what you guys don’t get to see is there was a more of a struggle between Curtis and Frank. Curtis really had to snap Frank out of killing that guy. After Curtis protects the guy, you can see the tension building between Curtis and Frank a whole lot more. In terms of the show’s pacing, they cut the scene down a little bit.
Hidden Remote: And it’s implied that Curtis is ultimately the one to call Frank at the end when Billy is dying because he knew he would finish the job.
Jason Moore: Right, because Curtis, this goes without saying, but Curtis needs Frank to find closure so that’s why he doesn’t call Mahoney or Dinah. He’s like no, let me have Frank do it his way so it can heal him. And the reason why there’s no turning back between Curtis and Billy is because of the whole betrayal. Billy got Frank’s family killed, you can’t walk back from that. So Curtis is like “he’s gotta go.”

The Hidden Remote interviewer then went on to ask about what we could have seen in a season three and made an excellent point of how we could see Curtis in the movie MCU.

Hidden Remote: Even though the show isn’t getting a third season, if there was somewhere else in the Marvel universe that you think Curtis could show up where do you think that would be?
Jason Moore: I think everywhere, you need a character like Curtis in almost every situation.
Hidden Remote: I was gonna say like the Avengers could use a group therapy session with Curtis.
Jason Moore: Oh yeah, they could definitely. That’d be pretty fun. Get Curtis in there talking to Captain America, have him having to talk the Hulk down, out of his rage. That’d probably be fun.
Hidden Remote: If you did get a season three, are there other characters on the show that you would have liked to work with more? I know Karen wasn’t technically a regular, but I would have liked to see them working together.
Jason Moore: Karen is such a sweetheart, I would have loved to have really had a scene with her and not just seen her in the hallways and the table reads. That character would have been great, more Dinah and Curtis would have been great, and of course the character who played Curtis’s girlfriend. When I first got that script, I was like oh we’re going to see more of her but then I guess they were gonna wait until season three to do that.

Even though Moore had said it may be difficult to get the entire original cast back together if another network picked up The Punisher, here’s hoping that something like that could happen, because we need shows like this and Daredevil.

You can check out the FULL interview at Hidden Remote and watch The Punisher Season Two on Netflix.

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